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Some of you may know that I've been learning German Longsword with Forte Swordplay. We've put together a video of most of the folks in the group sparring.


I'm the one yelling "yes" a lot (both in the ring and later inside). You can catch [livejournal.com profile] arcanology at the beginning in the early sparring clips. Notice how he doesn't flail the sword around at arm's length the way I do a couple of times here.

I recently served as a crash test dummy for a technical debate on the WMAC forum. This just got pulled together and has lively discussions going; I wish I'd followed this one before we shot the video for it, as I'd have been more attentive to a few points.


If anyone's interested in swordplay, give me a poke. We practice Wednesday evenings 8-10PM in a dojo on 3A in Burlington, and Sundays 11AM-1PM either there or in a park in Reading if the weather's good. Wednesday is the day to go if you don't know what you're doing yet. It's $10/session; we have equipment to loan to new folks (and in fact very few of us own a complete set of every kind of weapon we drill with).

Date: 2009-11-14 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com
I think we need to do some of the really boring drills for a while. We used to do a lot more of them, you've been cheated, if that's the word for it.

Also I look so damn slow in this video. I need to work on my onset.

Date: 2009-11-14 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredrickegerman.livejournal.com
Which really boring drills did you have in mind? I'm thinking the stuff having to do with clean delivery. And Silver's times. Timing and distance we've been doing pretty well with.

Date: 2009-11-14 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com
I mean the really really boring drills when you just do a cut with a step over and over. So I guess that's clean delivery, it's mostly reps.

Date: 2009-11-14 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredrickegerman.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, I think you look slower because of failing to lead with the sword. But your movements are clean and you're generally much better protected than I am here.

Date: 2009-11-14 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firstfrost.livejournal.com
Are you the one in blue?

(I find Jan surprisingly recognizable even without the shouting, but you are less so.)

Date: 2009-11-14 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com
Yes, the initial blue.

Date: 2009-11-17 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jmandresen.livejournal.com
It would be cooler if you had actual longswords, but I imagine there are insurance issues or some such.

Date: 2009-11-17 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredrickegerman.livejournal.com
Actually, one of the groups of swords we train with is the Federschwert (http://www.kultofathena.com/product~item~SH2333~name~Hanwei+Federschwert+Practice+Sword.htm) (reviewed by someone you know here (http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=82111)), which is a reproduction of the style of sword used for longsword training in period (http://www.higginssword.org/guild/study/manuals/meyer_illustrations/meyer_longsword_c.jpg) (that illustration from Meyer, one of the major sources we draw upon). They're blunt and flex sideways like a fencing foil, but they're much stiffer than that and are balanced like a longsword. [livejournal.com profile] arcanology owns a couple of Albion Meyers (http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/maestro/sword-practice-meyer.htm), which are a stiffer sword (so not usable at quite the same speed) but dramatically better balanced and constructed (and 5x as expensive; the Federschwert are semi-disposable and we've broken/bent them).

Interestingly, both swords in my opinion offer faster motion, a better bind, and a lot more point control than the modified shinai you see in the videos. The shinai are better for going all-out at full speed with minimal protection.

Date: 2009-11-17 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jmandresen.livejournal.com
I like "It's more like comparing apples and rocks."

Date: 2009-11-17 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcanology.livejournal.com
I have some actual ones but they're not so useful to hit fredrickegerman with more than once. I need to be able to hit him repeatedly to learn stuff.

Date: 2009-11-17 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jmandresen.livejournal.com
I suppose repeatedly hitting his mangled body on the ground doesn't count.

Date: 2009-11-17 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredrickegerman.livejournal.com
He'd have to hit me first.

Although, ironically, I don't have a way to respond in kind. I own no actual swords with edges (unless you count Andrea's rapier).

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